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lew  
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(1 user)  More options 23 Feb 2008, 03:43
From: lew <lewc...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:43:40 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 23 Feb 2008 03:43
Subject: Making The Rounds Of The Internet. You Agree OR Disagree?
This is one of the most profound articles that I have ever read about
our Government, this era and the war against terrorism.

 Everything this man says makes perfect sense to me. No matter your
politics, you owe it to yourself to read and pass on so we all are
informed of what's going on in our world!

 Another assessment of where the US stands in relation to the Middle
East problems, this one is from the guy who had his finger on the
nuclear trigger for three years as head of our defense and response
complex buried under Cheyenne Mountain at Colorado Springs. He was
the  only person who could initiate a nuclear attack after advising
the  sitting president of a missile launch by our enemies and our need
to  respond. No political or civilian type in the US had more
knowledge  about day-to-day military actions around the world.
Everyone should  find quiet time to read this. As far as I am
concerned, it is exactly  the direction we should go and the
consequences of not doing so are  well thought out.

 John R. (Jack) Farrington Major General, USAF (Retired)

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 Middle East Imperative

 BY: JIM CASH, Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret.

 I wrote recently about the war in Iraq and the larger war against
radical Islam, eliciting a number of responses. Let me try and put
this  conflict in proper perspective.

 Understand, the current battle we are engaged in is much bigger than
just Iraq. What happens in the next year will affect this country and
how our kids and grandkids live throughout their lifetime, and
beyond.  Radical Islam has been attacking the West since the seventh
century.  They have been defeated in the past and decimated to the
point of  taking hundreds of years to recover. But they can never be
totally  defeated. Their birth rates are so far beyond civilized world
rates  that in time they recover and attempt to dominate again.

 There are eight terror-sponsoring countries that make up the grand
threat to the West. Two, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, just need firm
pressure from the West to make major reforms. They need to decide who
they are really going to support and commit to that support. That
answer is simple. They both will support who they think will hang in
 there until the end, and win. We are not sending very good signals
in  that direction right now, thanks to the Democrats.

 The other six, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea and Libya
will require regime change or a major policy shift. Now, let's look
more closely.

 Afghanistan and Iraq have both had regime changes, but are being
fueled by outsiders from Syria and Iran. We have scared Gaddafi's
pants off, and he has given up his quest for nuclear weapons, so I
don't think Libya is now a threat.

 North Korea (the non-Islamic threat) can be handled diplomatically
by  buying them off. They are starving. That leaves Syria and Iran.
Syria  is like a frightened puppy. Without the support of Iran they
will join  the stronger side. So where does that leave us? Sooner, or
later, we  are going to be forced to confront Iran, and it better be
before they  gain nuclear capability.

 In 1989 I served as a Command Director inside the Cheyenne Mountain
complex located in Colorado Springs, Colorado for almost three years.
My job there was to observe (through classified means) every missile
shot anywhere in the world and assess if it was a threat to the US or
Canada. If any shot was threatening to either nation I had only
minutes  to advise the President, as he had only minutes to respond. I
watched  Iran and Iraq shoot missiles at each other every day, and all
day long,  for months. They killed hundreds of thousand of their
people. Know why?  They were fighting for control of the Middle East
and that enormous oil  supply.

 At that time, they were preoccupied with their internal problems and
could care less about toppling the west. Oil prices were fairly
stable  and we could not see an immediate threat. Well, the worst part
of what  we have done as a nation in Iraq is to do away with the
military  capability of one of those nations. Now, Iran has a clear
field to  dominate the Middle East, since Iraq is no longer a threat
to them.  They have turned their attention to the only other threat to
their  dominance, they are convinced they will win, because the US is
so  divided, and the Democrats (who now control Congress and may
control  the Presidency in 2008) have openly said we are pulling out.

 Do you have any idea what will happen if the entire Middle East
turns  their support to Iran, which they will obviously do if we pull
out? It  is not the price of oil we will have to worry about Oil WILL
NOT BE  AVAILABLE to this country at any price. I personally would
vote for any  presidential candidate who did what JFK did with the
space  program---declare a goal to bring this country to total energy
independence in a decade.

 Yes, it is about oil. The economy in this country will totally die
if  that Middle East supply is cut off right now. It will not be a
recession. It will be a depression that will make 1929 look like the
"good-old-days". The bottom line here is simple. If Iran is forced to
fall in line, the fighting in Iraq will end over night, and the
nightmare will be over.

 One way or another, Iran must be forced to join modern times and the
global community. It may mean a real war---if so, now is the time,
before we face a nuclear Iran with the capacity to destroy Israel and
begin a new ice age. I urge you to read the book "END GAME" by two of
our best Middle East experts, true American patriots and retired
military generals, Paul Vallely and Tom McInerney. They are our
finest,  and totally honest in their assessment of why victory in the
Middle  East is so important, and how it can be won. Proceeds for the
book go  directly to memorial fund for our fallen soldiers who served
the  country during the war on terror. You can find that book by going
to  the Internet through Stand-up America at www.ospreyradio.us or
www.rightalk.com
 On the other hand, we have several very angry retired generals
today,  who evidently have not achieved their lofty goals, and insist
on  ranting and raving about the war. They are wrong, and doing the
country  great harm by giving a certain political party reason to use
them as  experts to back their anti-war claims.

 You may be one of those who believe nothing could ever be terrible
enough to support our going to war. If that is the case I should stop
here, as that level of thinking approaches mental disability in this
day and age. It is right up there with alien abductions and high
altitude seeding through government aircraft contrails. I helped
produced those contrails for almost 30 years, and I can assure you we
were not seeding the atmosphere. The human race is a war-like
population, and if a country is not willing to protect itself, it
deserves the consequences. Nuff-said!!!

 Now, my last comments will get to the nerve. They will be on
politics.  I am not a Republican. And, George Bush has made enough
mistakes as  President to insure my feelings about that for the rest
of my life.  However, the Democratic Party has moved so far left, they
have made me  support those farther to the right. I am a conservative
who totally  supports the Constitution of this country. The only
difference between  the United States and the South American, third
world, dictator  infested and ever-changing South American
governments, is our US  Constitution.

 This Republic (note I did not say Democracy) is the longest standing
the world has ever known, but it is vulnerable. It would take so
little  to change it through economic upheaval. There was a time when
politicians could disagree, but still work together. We are past that
time, and that is the initial step toward the downfall of our form of
government.

 I think that many view Bush-hating as payback time. The Republicans
hated the Clinton's and now the Democrats hate Bush. So, both parties
are putting their hate toward willingness to do anything for
political  dominance to include lying and always taking the opposite
stand just  for the sake of being opposed. JUST HOW GOOD IS THAT FOR
OUR COUNTRY?

 In my lifetime, after serving in uniform for President's Kennedy,
Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, and Bush I have a pretty good
feel for which party supported our military, and what military life
was  like under each of their terms. And, let me assure you that times
were  best under the Republicans.

 Service under Jimmy Carter was devastating for all branches of the
military. And, Ronald Reagan was truly a salvation. You can choose to
listen to enriched newscasters, and foolish people like John Murtha
(he  is no war hero), Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Michael Moore, Jane
Fonda,  Harry Reid, Russ Feingold, Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and
on- and-on  to include the true fools in Hollywood if you like. If you
do, your  conclusions will be totally wrong.

 The reason that I write, appear on radio talk shows, and do
everything  I can to denounce those people is simple. THEY ARE PUTTING
THEIR THIRST  FOR POLITICAL POWER AND QUEST FOR VICTORY IN 2008 ABOVE
WHAT IS BEST  FOR THIS COUNTRY. I cannot abide that. Pelosi clearly
defied the Logan  Act by going to Syria, which should have lead to
imprisonment of three  years and a heavy fine. Jane Fonda did more to
prolong the Vietnam War  longer than any other human being (as
acknowledged by Ho Chi Minh in  his writing before he died). She truly
should have been indicted for  treason, along with her radical
husband, Tom Hayden, and forced to pay  the consequences.

 This country has started to soften by not enforcing its laws, which
is  another indication of a Republic about to fall. All Democrats,
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 More options 23 Feb 2008, 17:32
From: mike532 <littlemike...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:32:02 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 23 Feb 2008 17:32
Subject: Re: Making The Rounds Of The Internet. You Agree OR Disagree?
i have a wind chime in my yard to keep unicorns and drug crazed
trolls
away form my house and the rest of the country as well . i works the
same way the bush terror alerts work . a lot of noise that keeps the
imaginary threats away !

On Feb 22, 2:43 pm, lew <lewc...@aol.com> wrote:

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 More options 24 Feb 2008, 00:00
From: goozlefotz <dgrant...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:00:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 24 Feb 2008 00:00
Subject: Re: Making The Rounds Of The Internet. You Agree OR Disagree?
Lew, usually whan someone hits me with an "in your face" demand like
"agree or disagree" I will disagree on general principles.  In this
case, I see a mixture of positive and negative factors.  There is some
good material in the article and some world class bullshit.

On Feb 22, 2:43 pm, lew <lewc...@aol.com> wrote:

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